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Realistic Wing Tutorial - P.2 by Sunnybrook1 Realistic Wing Tutorial - P.2 by Sunnybrook1
Please let me know if you need this transcribed, and I will do so... :nod:

EDIT 9/21/16: If alligator clips are too pricey and/or you won't need to adjust the feathers much after you've placed them, just leave on 2.5" - 3.5" inches of extra wire to bend around the elastic. It's not as pretty or easy to adjust, but it's cheap & it works!

Also, some pro-tips from Imagi-Nethat :
    • Old bedsheets are a much cheaper alternative if you don't want to buy fabric off the roll.

    • While using fusable web instead of paint seems like a good idea, I do NOT recommend it.  The web doesn't stick to the wire and you end up having to go through extra steps to correct it.

    • For the wire, I cut it to the length of the feather and then folded and squashed one end down about an inch.  It keeps the fabric on well.

    • If you live in America, Menards had reasonably priced alligator clips.  It cost about $9 for two people's (36) clips.

    • While it's entirely possible to spray paint your feathers after the fabric has stuck together, be careful about it, as it can leave a mottled look if you don't spray evenly.

I Heart Wings by Sunnybrook1 

EDIT 3/22/10: Have you seen my video showing wing-movement yet?
EDIT 12/3/13: Or my OTHER video with both wings?

Part 0 - MATERIALS
Part 0.5 - TOOLS
Part 1 - CONCEPT
Part 2 - FEATHERS :pointl: YOU ARE HERE
Part 3 - HARNESS
Part 4 - ASSEMBLY
Part 5 - COVERTS
Part 6 - ARM-COVER WIP
EXTRA -  RESULTS: See what OTHER people have made following this tutorial~ :la:

The Feather Atlas
Slater Museum of Natural History

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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The polypropylene webbing can be replaced with whatever you want, as long as it's comfortable for you to wear and holds your wings up and in the right place. So if the elastic is strong enough sure, though I imagine it'll wear out eventually & get loose.

And I've never used twill. As long as it's absorbent it should still work, but if it's thicker than broadcloth you may find the feathers heavier. If you decide to try it, post here with the results! :thumbsup:
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AbiCat3043 Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Would I be able to glue 2 pieces of poster board together rather than fabric? Would it make the feathers sturdier if I did?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
So sturdy that they'll click & clack together when you move~ :D
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animelover7032 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not the person you were looking for an answer from but I'll answer anyway. Yes you would be able to glue 2 pieces of poster board together. They make a bit of noise but work. Someone else did it, here's a video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRRtfY…  and here's their DA==> davennashi.deviantart.com/
I'm not sure if it would be sturdier, I would assume so since they would be stiffer.
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AbiCat3043 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much for responding! I'm glad the poster board will work and I'm excited to get started.
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animelover7032 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem! I'm glad I could help :D It would be cool to see your wings when they're done (if you're going to put a picture or two up of the final product)
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Imagi-Nethat Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
A few tips for people:
- Old bedsheets are a much cheaper alternative if you don't want to buy fabric off the roll.
- While using fusable web instead of paint seems like a good idea, I do NOT recommend it.  The web doesn't stick to the wire and you end up having to go through extra steps to correct it.
- For the wire, I cut it to the length of the feather and then folded and squashed one end down about an inch.  It keeps the fabric on well.
- If you live in America, Menards had reasonably priced alligator clips.  It cost about $9 for two people's (36) clips.
- While it's entirely possible to spray paint your feathers after the fabric has stuck together, be careful about it, as it can leave a mottled look if you don't spray evenly.
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I second all of this, though the tip about cheap alligator clips is great news! :la: I remember spending a TON on those things...
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bitterly-spiteful Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hey! So I just got to the point of painting the feathers together over the wire. I have a quick question.
Is the length of the wing including the excess wire for the pivot point, or just the cloth feather?
I measured out the length of the feathers, so they're cut out like that (for example, the first primary is 22") Did I just make the feathers unnecessarily long, and the /wire/ has to be the 22 inches? Or,,,,
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
First note - it's better to have the wire too long than too short (can always cut off the excess, can't add length to a too-short piece).

If your primary feather's final length is 22", it should be that long after you've curled the tip (if you choose to do that) and looped the end to make the pivot-point connection. And the length of the Secondary feathers depends on whether or not you are using the alligator clips, or going the cheaper/quicker route of looping & crimping 2.5"-3.5" of the wire around the elastic - *edits the above tutorial to include example pictures* - it means it's a bit more difficult to replace a feather if it gets damaged (you'll have to uncrimp/unbend the wire's grip on the elastic) but it'll keep it in place~

Second note - if you look at step 3 of this tutorial, you can see where I position the wire between the fabric pieces. The end of the shaft is 1-2 inches offset from the tip of the feather, so keep that in mind when measuring/cutting your wire.

Does that help?
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bitterly-spiteful Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, that helps a lot! Thanks man
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GhoulBanshee Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2016  Student General Artist
I have a question: 
If you are using regular fabric for the primary and secondary feathers, then what would the felt be for?

also, thank you for this awesome tutorial!
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
No problem and actually some people use felt instead of regular fabric. ALSO, I used the felt initially for the feathery-looking bits on my first attempt at an arm cover, but I've become a bit unsatisfied with it now. :/ 
 WING COVER - Sneak Peak by Sunnybrook1  

So unless you are making your feathers out of felt, or using it in your wing/arm cover, it's not required. Does that answer your question? ^^;
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GhoulBanshee Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2016  Student General Artist
yes, thank you so much!
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RuffsPuffsandPunks Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2016
As someone using the crow pattern that you've posted, which feathers are the primaries and which the secondaries?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Primaries are all the feathers that are attached to the Pivot Point (and hence end in a wire loop), and secondaries are the ones attached to the elastic! :D
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hey, i.m a german fashionstudent and will use the wings for one of my outfits for the fashionshow. :)
if you painted both fabrics together with the wire between and its try, are the feathers are stark and stiff? or does it depends which fabric i use?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 15, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Glad to hear, I'd love to see photos or video of what you make! :la:

And the painted fabric is stiff enough to hold it's shape, but will become floppy and unsupported if its too far away from the wire, anything more than 3-4 inches, at least with broadcloth & wall paint - I'm still testing if glue creates different results.

The fabric does make a difference, but as long as the fibers are thick/absorbent enough to hold the paint/glue, squish together around the wire, & dry flat, you should be fine.

Example - this person made their feathers using felt:
The Voice Card by Tears-of-Scarlet  
GIFs showing their movement :pointr: sunnybrook1.tumblr.com/post/64…

And they look sturdy, yet still soft & pliable.
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GhoulBanshee Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2016  Student General Artist
So by my understanding, you take a cut out shape of your fabric (or in the person above's case, two cut out pieces of felt) and you paint them together on the wire with wall paint? also, does the type of paint make a difference?
 
thank you
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Sounds about right, I used matte wall paint, beyond that use a color that is close to your fabric color. Also elmers glue works too, but it's a bit pricier in comparison (but if the paint doesn't work as well, it certainly will)~
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GhoulBanshee Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2016  Student General Artist
i understand now, thank you so much for responding!
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BloodRedClaw Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2015
okay! thank you!
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BloodRedClaw Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2015
urrm, for the paint section is it necessary to use the same colour paint as your felt? and will the paint stick to the felt? 
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Some of the paint tends to seep through the fabric (or felt, in your case) when applying, so it's useful for it to be the same or similar color as your fabric (or final wing color) so that there is less cover-up to do afterwards.

And the paint I've listed has worked for me well so far. If you're not sure, only buy a small bit of it and try out making a single felt feather and see the results~ :thumbsup:
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BloodRedClaw Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
Um, what kind of cloth do you use? is felt okay or should I use something else?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Felt is fine, it ends up being a bit thicker but takes the paint more easily than the broadcloth I use myself. :thumbsup:
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charmedsevenfold Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2015
Also is the latex tubing supposed to be stretchy?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Indeed~ :nod: You can replace it with more elastic, if that's easier.
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charmedsevenfold Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2015
How can I keep the broadcloth feathers from fraying??
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Couple of ways - sealing the finished edge with clear nail polish, official brand raw edge sealer like Fray Check or Fray Stop, hot glue or super glue on really troublesome spots. :plotting:
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zangothedino Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015
is the full gallon of paint really necessary how much paint at minimum do you think i could get away with? 
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Oh, I never used a full gallon for one pair of wings, that was just the smallest paint can they had. ^^; You probably only need a fourth or third of a gallon. :thumbsup:
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MountAndDewMe Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
so the cardboard is just for a pattern and not for the final feathers?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Indeed, the cardboard is quite thick and would make the wings very awkward (plus you'd need a MUCH longer pivot point bolt to fit them all), but it has been done before. :shrug: If you are looking for a simple, cheap material to try this out on, I recommend posterboard. :D And instead of paint you use hot glue or spray adhesive to sandwich the feather sides over the shafts.
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Sarikitten Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
How long should each piece of elastic be? I know it says 2-3 yards and to fold it in 3. Is that 2-3 yards per wing or is that for both wings? Is there a measurement for the elastic i need based on my arm measurements? Absolutely love this tutorial btw!
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The 3 feet folded over (to make one triple-thick foot) is for a single wing, so you'll need twice as much for both wings.

And yes, there is a measurement based on your arm/body, it's shown in Realistic Wing Tutorial - P.3 step 6, but you know I may not have actually specified that before, thanks for asking!

The elastic is tripled for strength/durability, and it's length is determined by the distance between the harness & the pivot point of your glove when your arm is folded in a comfortable "bird wing" position. That way the elastic is shortest when your wings are closed, with no stretch to it, and then lengthens/stretches when you open your wings, allowing the feathers attached to it to look like they're 'opening' as well.

Does that make sense? ^^;
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Sarikitten Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
It does thank you :) and how do you sew the arm cover over the secondaries. I get the triangle part over the fan but won't sewing the arm cover section over the secondaries prevent proper movement of the feathers?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Not if you only connect it in a few key places, but that's what has been making the design of the arm cover so tricky for me. :( Some just make a faux fur sleeve that drapes over the wing & wrinkles nicely when the wing is folded, though I haven't tried that myself. 

I've had moderate success by making a feathered sleeve that hooks to the wing elastic in 1-2 places, but haven't perfected it enough to make a tutorial on it, my apologies... ^^;
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Sarikitten Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
No worries that helps alot. So I can either connect in a few places on elastic or try to sew it to the fully extended feathers. I'll see what I can do :) thanks so much
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flowersbytheroad Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2015  Student General Artist
Hi! I dont quite have enough elastic and theyre pretty expensive where I'm from so is there anyway to skip the elastic here? You mentioned in your tutorial that I should just do the math but I cant seem to find the instructions for that
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Something to use instead of elastic in the arms to mount the feathers onto? :hmm: Hmmm, this design requires something at least similar to elastic to work I'd say no, and since elastic is so flat & stretchy I still recommend it, but if you find something else (maybe bungee cords & bend the feather shafts around it, pinching it in place?) give it a shot & let me know how it goes.

And do you mean the math that determines the length of the feathers? :D It's shown in Realistic Wing Tutorial - P.1 , but the "measurements" come from the actual lengths of feathers from wild birds, photographed & catalogued in the Feather Atlas, the ones I made of crow's feathers were in centimeters, I just changed centimeters to inches and tried it out, and they looked/worked great.

Hope that answers your questions~ ^^;
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Katrinava Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This tutorial is very interesting so far but my tablet can't zoom in enough fo me to be able to read it so I'll see if I can get it later on but I'll read the tutorial until the end.
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Lemme know if you were able to see it or not~
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Orukal Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015
Sweetheart, thank you for this tutorial. I'm using it as a guide to make my daughter wings for her phoenix persona that she uses as a renaissance faire. A quick question and I would love your input. I used spray adhesive to glue the wings together and while the first, test feather came out wonderfully, the rest varied from perfect to about 40% glued. It was my own fault since I didn't follow your instructions. Fortunately, broadcloth is cheap. My question for you is how durable is the paint-as-glue method? Will the feather halves stick together well even in wind and after use or do they need to be frequently repaired or replaced?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Well, my first pair of raven wings lasted multiple years and a trip to Sweden, so I'd say yes, quite durable. :D

They do accumulate wear and tear like any costume, but most of my damage was on the wing tips (longer wings can drag on the ground when arms are down) which were actually easily reglued with regular or hot glue, and while water can cause them to droop and lose their stiffness letting them dry and even ironing them flat will restore them.

I'm even surprised at how well they lasted, let me know how it goes & if it works well for you~ :thumbsup:
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Orukal Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015
Thank you very much. One more question, if I may. I bought replacement fabric in order to retry the wings and I was trying to decide on paint color. The reason why is that I'm trying to make the wings with a red back and yellow front. I was thinking of using yellow paint so that the yellow front fabric would remain yellow but I didn't know how the red fabric would handle it. I'm going to test it on scrap fabric tomorrow, but I was just wondering if you or anyone else has had any experience with two color fabric for the wings.
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Ah, good point! 2 colored feathers are definitely on my list of things to try, I do agree that using yellow paint would probably work best since any bleed-through on the red side could be covered over with red paint. :la: I'd love to see/hear how it turns out, post if you can? Even in scraps would be fine...
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Orukal Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2015
I ran a test with yellow and red fabric and yellow paint. The paint does penetrate a bit, but we're going to go with it this first time and if it looks bad enough, I'll spray paint the red fabric to cover it. Once I figure out how to attach pictures to my comments I'll put them up.
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