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Realistic Wing Tutorial - P.6 WIP by Sunnybrook1 Realistic Wing Tutorial - P.6 WIP by Sunnybrook1
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This is still a Work in Progress, but "done beats perfect" so here's what I have so far...EDIT: aaaand DONE, for now. :D Now you know as much as I do!  Moving on to another pair of wings and will readdress the gaps then, with better pictures/explanations, etc.

Will post a new one when I do, so don't worry about missing it! :thumbsup:

Part 0 - MATERIALS
Part 0.5 - TOOLS
Part 1 - CONCEPT
Part 2 - FEATHERS
Part 3 - HARNESS
Part 4 - ASSEMBLY
Part 5 - COVERTS
Part 6 - ARM-COVER WIP :pointl: YOU ARE HERE
EXTRA -  RESULTS: See what OTHER people have made following this tutorial~ :la:

Wing Design/Tutorial © =Sunnybrook1
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MaatHarmony Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  New member Professional Artist
Please advise where I can find latex tubing. I've tried Home Depot, Lowes, CVS and medical supply stores. No luck. If I cannot find it what lse will work? Elastic? Thanks!!
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Elastic will work just fine! :thumbsup::D
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Cloudspin Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014
heyy i was just wondering, since im planning to make wings with ur tutorial and are gonna try use fur for the arm covers, do you think i would still need the plastic mesh?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Well a bit of plastic mesh is good for covering the primary fan, but not required. :) So you can probably skip it for now & just grab a bit later if needed~
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Cloudspin Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
mh ok ill see how it goes without the plastic mesh for now, after i get all the materials needed for the wings xD but what kinda fabric would u recommend using on the feathers , and would it be possible to use something else than the hose on the harness?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The type of fabric isn't as important as it's thickness/fiber type (needs to be able to absorb/hold the paint, so super-thin or shiny/slippery fabrics don't do as well) but the name of the fabric I use the most if basic broadcloth.

And elastic should work just fine, if you don't want to use the rubber hose. ^^;
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NibblesNZ Featured By Owner May 23, 2014
Alright sorry one more question. How long does this take to make? Like if you worked on it for 5-6 hours a day how many weeks would it take to make both wings? Im doing this for a wearable arts thing and I have a certain amount of time to make this. Thanks so much for your help! :iconrainbowheartplz: :D
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I estimate 40-45 hrs, so that'll be 9 days or about a week and a half, BUT some of these steps require paint/glue drying time, so it's not exact. If you are dedicated they can be completed in 2 weeks - this is of course assuming you are making FABRIC ones, according to my tutorial - paper/cardboard/posterboard ones can be busted out in about 2-3 days, but don't last as long. :thanks:
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NibblesNZ Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
Ok thanks! About how long do the paper/cardboard/posterboard ones last? And i'm a bit confused about how the Fabric feathers are stiff. Thank you SO SO SO SO SO much! :) :D
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Depends HEAVILY on how much abuse you put them through. :confused: Posed & non-moving they could last for years, moving carefully and slowly would be at least a year, and heavy flapping/bumping into things? If it's only 1 event they should last, but more than that the wear & tear will accumulate and start to show.

Luckily it's fairly easy to remake & replace broken down feathers with my design, and since the materials are so cheap I'd say try it and see how it turns out~ At best they'll  do what you need, at worst you have some practice with the articulation, possibly patterns & practice for making them out of fabric instead. :thanks:

And indeed, I was surprised at first too at how well fabric sandwiched with paint stays in the position it dried in, with some nice flexibility when moving. It just works, maybe something to do with both layers of fabric being glued together with paint makes it less flexible than fabric (example: think how hard it is to bend over & touch your toes when holding onto a friend with both arms!)?

Does that answer your questions?
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SchmiedeTraum Featured By Owner May 22, 2014
Good detailed how to ;-)
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thanks~ ^^;
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akelataka Featured By Owner May 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I nearly finished my wings, however... I noticed that in many people's photos, the feathers turn horizontally, and the effect of real wing feathers diminishes a bit. The same happens to me. Since my description is as bad as it can be, I drew it here so you know what I mean (it is a bit exaggerated in the picture, in reality, it does not look SO bad... but the effect is still there):
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Is there any known way to prevent this? Does this happen to you, too?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Ah, I've seen this as well. :nod: The problem comes from the feather shafts having too much space between them on the pivot point, allowing them the room to twist and lay at that angle. When the pivot point is the proper size - just wide enough for the primaries' shafts - and any gaps are filled or stabilized (I use metal washers for this, myself) then when the wing is opened the shafts don't twist like you describe. :D

And yes, I had this problem on my previous pair of crow wings, when it got old and stretched - it was fairly easy to tighten though, luckily. Let me know if that helps, or if more explanation/advice is needed. :thanks:
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akelataka Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I see! Thanks for the tip, I will try filling the gaps using the metal washers. However, there is not much I can do about the secondary feathers... is there?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Your secondaries are spinning too? :confused: The ones attached to the elastic in a line? Hmmmm...those should only spin/be at an angle if they've been constructed that way. Have any pictures of this? I might be able to recommend a solution for it....
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akelataka Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, they are spinning too... kind of.... a little bit. Well I will leave it for now and see if the finishing helps a bit (I guess that adding the fabric feathers arm cover might help to keep them in line).
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Dragon-Wolf-Lover Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is so cool! I think this part will probably be the most confusing for me, other than the harness ^^' I'll just have to read very carefully and hope I don't screw up... O.o
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 13, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yeeeeah, this part is still a work in progress, sorry. ^^; Don't be afraid to try something not shown here, oh and check out my RWT results favorite folder, other followers of this tutorial have solved this problem in different ways.
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Dragon-Wolf-Lover Featured By Owner May 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay! Thanks very much. I'll test it out.
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foxxyloxy1 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Hm..so I can make arm covers that mimic my fursuit sleeves for the wings probably..that's a great thought to have for these wings
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner May 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Probably, sounds like it could work. :thanks: Lemme know how it works out, yah?
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KiotheDark Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Best wings I've seen :) nicely done and thanks for the awesome tutorial. ^_^
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
You are most welcome~ :D
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akelataka Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
At the time being I am working on the wing coverts, but in my head I am planning how to do the arm cover. I think I will experiment on it a bit because I would like to make a movable alula, but still I thought about doing the whole cover out of fabric. May I ask why exactly did you use the plastic mesh? Is it only to keep the elastic above your elbow?
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
:thanks: Pretty much, also didn't want fewer icky wrinkles forming on the sleeve where I move my arm, this way they're hidden under the plastic panels but still movable and look photogenic. At least, that's the plan ^^;

Think you could attach the alula to your hand with it's leading edge on your pointer finger & hold the main wings up with your thumb & bottom 3 fingers while manipulating the mini-wing? :plotting: Hmm...
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akelataka Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking about... attaching the alula to my pointer finger ^^ Once I am done I will let you know the result. Oh and thank you for the reply! ^^
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jocelinrademacher Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
wonderful! never through about the finger thing at the tips o.o
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
You mean the final triangular panel? :confused: Or the hand-cover?
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jocelinrademacher Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
the hand cover XD >_>
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Ah, gotcha! ^^;
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WildfireFox Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Student General Artist
But I need this finished. ;-; It's the last part...
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Finished it some more! :faint: Now you know as much as I do on this so far. ^^; Maybe this will be enough?
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WildfireFox Featured By Owner May 26, 2014  Student General Artist
I think so~ I finished these up back around January. I have a mediocre set of pics for it at the moment, but I'll be going to a Convention next month and probably end up with a bunch of decent ones.
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I knoooow... Kao Emoji-55 (Writing) [V3]  Imma working on it today though, I wanna finish and move on too! CURSE YOU! 
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TheLittleAdventurer Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How can I make arm covers that looks like sleeves? Love this tutorial! 
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yeeeh, sorry it's not done yet ^^; and can you be a bit more specific? If you want to make something that looks like sleeves make sleeves, and believe me there are already a ton of good sleeve tutorials out there...
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Hero-Of-The-Stars Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh i'm not going to be board this summer!! So making a Blue Jay~
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Elemental-Raven Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Wish I had the resources for this because I have a different idea for the wing cover. T-T But I'm poor as fudge and jobs are hard to find.
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I hear you there! :cling: Don't let that stop you from sketching or digitizing your idea so that when you DO have materials your inspiration won't be lost, that's helping me finish this here...
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Elemental-Raven Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
Thanks for your support. However, if I don't get a job by the end of the month, my aunt and uncle aren't paying for my gas anymore. Luckily, drawing is my stress outlet. Yay! Ever since I saw these tutorials, I had an idea for a character with wing-arms. If I could make it, no more con-shame. XD I had a nice ref for her in my sketchbook. Anyway, the cover for her isn't exactly "natural". She's a humanoid spirit. Her name is, literally, Spirit. You could try, for a less realistic and probibly bad approach, making a cover for the wings that drape and qwerio nevermind.
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Good luck! :shakefist:
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Elemental-Raven Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2014
Thanks.
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jocelinrademacher Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
BTW, after the holidays (broke yo) i am totally gonna push myself and make HUGE wings. I can't wait to show you how I am gonna do it....
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
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dafnedahedgehog221 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
your b-day is the same as mine lol
i am waiting anxiously waiting for this >:3 soooooo many cosplay ideas
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yay, 9 more days until another year of life is complete~ :D And ideas? Oooh, care to share some? Unless they're surprises, then don't worry I can wait. :la:
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dafnedahedgehog221 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah 9 more days >3<
I wanted to do like a fursuit of honchkrow but with these wings, not the gijinka style but actual pokemon itself
i also had in mind one of the dragonroost people (they are bird peeps from LoZ windwaker) as i thought it be fun to make and cosplay
i had an idea for a steampunked bird creature but i needa work on it a little more before considering it a cosplay lol
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Sunnybrook1 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
All good stuff, and yup this style of wing is perfect for the LoZ Rito race, hope to see more good ones. :D
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dafnedahedgehog221 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
same here lol i have been so busy with work i haven't thought much on cosplay 
that and the thought of having zero moneyz to spend on making cosplays is depressing ;w;
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